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[The Hit List Users] Re: iphone app

ToodleDo is 1-way-sync. Still. I have been pushing them to allow for 2-
way as this is possible with the latest iCal format. Only then will it
be a solution with any other desktop GTD application.

---marlyse

On May 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, BoxOfSnoo wrote:

> I think a fairly straightforward mapping might happen with ToodleDo
> (RTM could handle the Smart Folders, but not ToodleDo, from what I
> see), so if we could sync with that and use the ToodleDo (or
> PocketInformant!!) apps on the go that might even be better yet.


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[The Hit List Users] Re: iphone app

Aha, I didn't catch that you already were using RTM. Well, if you
have a process AND apps to implement it, then it's an uphill battle
for sure.

For the way I work (80% at my computer), there were a few features of
THL that killed any other alternative - I really needed that speed and
flexibility that RTM didn't give me. The 20% away does sting but I
don't even have an iTouch yet.

I think a fairly straightforward mapping might happen with ToodleDo
(RTM could handle the Smart Folders, but not ToodleDo, from what I
see), so if we could sync with that and use the ToodleDo (or
PocketInformant!!) apps on the go that might even be better yet.

It didn't sound like you were telling others how to work, I just
didn't understand your comment on revenue. It will come, and likely
more so, if people wait until after 1.0.

On May 12, 10:49 am, Bret <bretrbow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> BoxofSnoo,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Since there is seamless sync with my current
> setup in Remember the Milk, there is no compelling reason to spend
> extra time developing my own unsupported process that I have to
> manage.  I think the Hit List will be an option for me once it is
> released with an iPhone app.  The desktop app is easy to use and
> presents more flexibility than RTM.
>
> You did a great job of summarizing my point regarding the extra $20 so
> I think you understand my reasoning.  However, creating custom sync
> solutions and expending the energy to manage them when they break,
> require reformatting, etc, is not something I have the skills or
> desire to deal with.  That is all I was trying to say.  I wouldn't
> dare try to tell anyone else how to make a decision regarding their
> own system.
>
> My post was just one man's opinion....mine.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On May 11, 12:49 pm, BoxOfSnoo <jmarkev...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I don't understand your reasoning.  If you don't want to buy in now,
> > before there is an iPhone app, that's fine, you can wait and pay $20
> > more.  I don't think Andy will mind!  If you do want to buy in now,
> > you save some money but you have to accept that not everything is
> > finished - including an iPhone app.
>
> > If your process immutably requires a portable solution (which is very
> > understandable) you can follow any of the suggestions already posted
> > including the iCal sync section of the app.
>
> > On May 11, 11:23 am, Bret <bretrbow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Personally, I respect Andy's plan to build out his desktop app first.
>
> > > However, I believe the big trade-off will be the loss of early revenue
> > > due to user decisions not to pay up front for the tool since there is
> > > no "published" plan or milestone date for iPhone development and
> > > delivery.  The difference between buying now and after 1.0 is ready is
> > > not a large amount of money to avoid the risk of a late-blooming
> > > iPhone app.  Without a roadmap (with a milestone date for iPhone app
> > > delivery) I will hold off on paying any money and enjoy using the
> > > beta.
>
> > > The beta has been great but I find that I cannot use THL "effectively"
> > > in my day to day process without an iPhone app.  I do leave my Mac in
> > > my office while doing other things in life.  I did try loading up a
> > > PDF of all of my tasks to Google Docs for a simple view but that added
> > > yet another step (which I always seemed to forget before going out).
>
> > > I look forward to a published plan for an iPhone app - without feeling
> > > "entitled" to have one :)
>
> > > My voice is heard through my decision not to pay the lower, up-front
> > > price (and sharing it on this forum).
>
> > > Thanks to everyone for keeping this forum productive and friendly.
>
> > > Andy, thanks for making what will surely be a best of breed task
> > > manager.  Keep it up!
>
> > > On May 10, 5:38 am, etichenor <etiche...@me.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Wanting an iPhone app is not an entitlement.  It is simply asking for
> > > > a feature that is already promised by Andy.  The whole point of this
> > > > product is to increase a person's productivity.  Being able to access
> > > > my data on the iPhone would greatly help me do that.  As it is, I am
> > > > using multiple workarounds using the free Appigo Todo and Evernote to
> > > > be able to sync back to THL and keep track of my data.  Having a more
> > > > seamless integration only makes sense.  THL is already an awesome
> > > > product.  Having the iPhone app will make it even better.  I for one
> > > > would pay $10 for the iPhone app without any hesitation and I imagine
> > > > many others would do the same.
>
> > > > On May 7, 5:21 pm, Neo <neal.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Feature Request:
> > > > > Temporarily remove the iPhone Sync tab from THL Preferences to help
> > > > > the Entitled be more patient.
> > > > > ;)
> > > > > PS to The Entitled:  B-E-T-A. Get it?http://tr.im/kJIT
> > > > > Also: THL is not for sale.  If you paid already, you placed a PRE-
> > > > > ORDER for v1.0! (http://tr.im/kJJH).
> > > > > Go away and let Andy work.
>
> > > > > On May 7, 8:50 am, Michael <mcwers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I agree...
>
> > > > > > Also, let's not forget that iPhone OS 3.0 is coming out. Right now it
> > > > > > would probably/maybe make more sense to develop the iPhone app using
> > > > > > the new SDK (which would make it impossible to release the app now).
> > > > > > Developing using the iphone 2.x SDK, then porting it to the 3.x SDK
> > > > > > would be even more work. At least that's what I think (I don't know
> > > > > > much about the iPhone SDKs).
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[The Hit List Users] Re: iphone app

BoxofSnoo,

Thanks for the reply. Since there is seamless sync with my current
setup in Remember the Milk, there is no compelling reason to spend
extra time developing my own unsupported process that I have to
manage. I think the Hit List will be an option for me once it is
released with an iPhone app. The desktop app is easy to use and
presents more flexibility than RTM.

You did a great job of summarizing my point regarding the extra $20 so
I think you understand my reasoning. However, creating custom sync
solutions and expending the energy to manage them when they break,
require reformatting, etc, is not something I have the skills or
desire to deal with. That is all I was trying to say. I wouldn't
dare try to tell anyone else how to make a decision regarding their
own system.

My post was just one man's opinion....mine.

Thanks.

On May 11, 12:49 pm, BoxOfSnoo <jmarkev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't understand your reasoning.  If you don't want to buy in now,
> before there is an iPhone app, that's fine, you can wait and pay $20
> more.  I don't think Andy will mind!  If you do want to buy in now,
> you save some money but you have to accept that not everything is
> finished - including an iPhone app.
>
> If your process immutably requires a portable solution (which is very
> understandable) you can follow any of the suggestions already posted
> including the iCal sync section of the app.
>
> On May 11, 11:23 am, Bret <bretrbow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Personally, I respect Andy's plan to build out his desktop app first.
>
> > However, I believe the big trade-off will be the loss of early revenue
> > due to user decisions not to pay up front for the tool since there is
> > no "published" plan or milestone date for iPhone development and
> > delivery.  The difference between buying now and after 1.0 is ready is
> > not a large amount of money to avoid the risk of a late-blooming
> > iPhone app.  Without a roadmap (with a milestone date for iPhone app
> > delivery) I will hold off on paying any money and enjoy using the
> > beta.
>
> > The beta has been great but I find that I cannot use THL "effectively"
> > in my day to day process without an iPhone app.  I do leave my Mac in
> > my office while doing other things in life.  I did try loading up a
> > PDF of all of my tasks to Google Docs for a simple view but that added
> > yet another step (which I always seemed to forget before going out).
>
> > I look forward to a published plan for an iPhone app - without feeling
> > "entitled" to have one :)
>
> > My voice is heard through my decision not to pay the lower, up-front
> > price (and sharing it on this forum).
>
> > Thanks to everyone for keeping this forum productive and friendly.
>
> > Andy, thanks for making what will surely be a best of breed task
> > manager.  Keep it up!
>
> > On May 10, 5:38 am, etichenor <etiche...@me.com> wrote:
>
> > > Wanting an iPhone app is not an entitlement.  It is simply asking for
> > > a feature that is already promised by Andy.  The whole point of this
> > > product is to increase a person's productivity.  Being able to access
> > > my data on the iPhone would greatly help me do that.  As it is, I am
> > > using multiple workarounds using the free Appigo Todo and Evernote to
> > > be able to sync back to THL and keep track of my data.  Having a more
> > > seamless integration only makes sense.  THL is already an awesome
> > > product.  Having the iPhone app will make it even better.  I for one
> > > would pay $10 for the iPhone app without any hesitation and I imagine
> > > many others would do the same.
>
> > > On May 7, 5:21 pm, Neo <neal.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Feature Request:
> > > > Temporarily remove the iPhone Sync tab from THL Preferences to help
> > > > the Entitled be more patient.
> > > > ;)
> > > > PS to The Entitled:  B-E-T-A. Get it?http://tr.im/kJIT
> > > > Also: THL is not for sale.  If you paid already, you placed a PRE-
> > > > ORDER for v1.0! (http://tr.im/kJJH).
> > > > Go away and let Andy work.
>
> > > > On May 7, 8:50 am, Michael <mcwers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I agree...
>
> > > > > Also, let's not forget that iPhone OS 3.0 is coming out. Right now it
> > > > > would probably/maybe make more sense to develop the iPhone app using
> > > > > the new SDK (which would make it impossible to release the app now).
> > > > > Developing using the iphone 2.x SDK, then porting it to the 3.x SDK
> > > > > would be even more work. At least that's what I think (I don't know
> > > > > much about the iPhone SDKs).
>
>
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Monday, May 11, 2009

[The Hit List Users] Re: Give context to nested items in 'Today'

This is a good point. I'd like to see this type of implementation.

On Apr 15, 2:14 am, fallacylon <middletonjos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, I would worry that automatically showing the parent (or whole
> 'ancestry') whenever any child shows up in the Today list (or in a
> smart folder) would create the risk of people marking the parent as
> done when there are actually other uncompleted siblings that don't
> show up in that particular smart list.  I do _not_ suggest that the
> list should show not only the ancestors of any child item, but also
> all of its siblings.  I _do_ suggest that the ancestry be indicated
> compactly, and without any checkboxes.  I would furthermore suggest
> that these act as links to the original ancestor items, so you can
> easily go back and visit the whole 'family.'
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[The Hit List Users] Re: Feature Request Process

I think I'd rather let users tell us what's most important to them and
then we can figure out what release makes the most sense to implement
them.

I have put a pointer to the moderator page at the top of the feature
request page. If stuff still gets added there it's ok. As long as it's
someplace we won't lose it. :) If moderator works out well, I'll make
sure all the suggestions on the page get moved over.

Howard

On May 11, 2009, at 5:12 PM, beiju wrote:

> Of course I agree with the Google Moderator system, as I'm the one
> that suggested it in the first place. However, I have a suggestion on
> how to use it: Why not have categories for 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0 (and add
> 1.x as it becomes appropriate), allowing users to do a rudimentary
> amount of self-prioritization? The downside to this is Moderator's
> inability to move items between categories—the task would have to be
> re-submitted. This applies to the current implementation as well, but
> there's less likely to be reason to move it then.
>
> If and when you decide to stick with Google Moderator, are you going
> to post a note on the current feature request page telling people? I
> ask because some people are still posting requests as discussions, and
> will probably not notice this change if they didn't notice the other
> one.
>
> On May 11, 11:33 am, Nic <ncfletc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes, I agree... a solution for one problem creates a new problem in a
>> different area. Let's see how it goes. Thanks.
>>
>> On May 11, 4:13 pm, Howard Melman <hmel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think we'll stick with Moderator for now and see how it works out.
>>
>>> I had thought about just one big topic and debated. Given the size
>>> of
>>> the feature request page, I didn't think people would go through the
>>> whole list and the top suggestions would just keep getting more
>>> votes.
>>> With a small number of suggestions I agree, it's more annoying. With
>>> lots of suggestions, I think the categories work better (but am open
>>> to other suggestions).
>>
>>> I wish Google would let you see all suggestions across all topics at
>>> once, but I can't control. that.
>>
>>> Howard
>>
>>> On May 11, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Nic wrote:
>>
>>>> Sorry, one more thing:
>>
>>>> UserVoice also allows Andy to manage the requests and report back
>>>> to
>>>> us by adding statuses (e.g. under consideration, planned,
>>>> rejected for
>>>> now, etc.).
>>
>>>> I'm not trying to promote it specifically, because I understand the
>>>> logic of staying with Google... but I thought it might just make
>>>> your
>>>> lives easier!
>>
>>>> On May 11, 12:58 pm, Nic <ncfletc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In reply to Marlyse, it appears that uservoice is the exact
>>>>> service
>>>>> that Nambu was using.
>>
>>>>> However, I didn't notice the Google Moderator, which while not
>>>>> quite
>>>>> as fully-featured as UserVoice (because I really like the
>>>>> concept of
>>>>> being limited to a certain number of votes - a better way to try
>>>>> and
>>>>> judge what is really popular, and it has some functionality to
>>>>> reduce
>>>>> the chance of duplicates), I am very happy to use.
>>
>>>>> But just one piece of feedback Howard. Moderator makes us go
>>>>> through
>>>>> each category separately. I would be much more likely to view and
>>>>> vote
>>>>> more frequently if there were less categories (or if Google
>>>>> allowed
>>>>> to
>>>>> browse all categories at once).
>>
>>>>> On May 10, 3:08 pm, Marlyse Comte <mstud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I like the idea of tracking all the requests and then also kind
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> turning it into a poll (no matter what the developer does with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> data).
>>
>>>>>> On one of my sites, athttp://www.mStudiosTALK.comIuseUserVoice.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> gives a lightbox window directly on the site for input and when
>>>>>> navigated to it, it looks like this:http://mstudios.uservoice.com/pages/7593-general
>>>>>> ]. It is really simple to implement and works really well for
>>>>>> tracking
>>>>>> user requests (of course also not foolproof) - seems to be
>>>>>> similar
>>>>>> like the Nambu forum you're talking about, but this one is free:http://uservoice.com/
>>>>>> if used for 1 forum and up to 500 votes a month (with all the
>>>>>> MacHeist bundle users possibly too low).
>>
>>>>>> Anyways, this would be also maybe a good option.
>>
>>>>>> ---marlyse
>>
>>>>>> On May 10, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Nic wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> FYI (and for anyone else), I have been using a Twitter client
>>>>>>> (Nambu)
>>>>>>> that has a cool forum feature (which you can buy... link are
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> page), where users can add requests and vote for them, which
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> 10
>>>>>>> active votes at any one time, and a max of only 3 votes to any
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> feature request. When adding a feature request it also
>>>>>>> searches for
>>>>>>> others that are similar, before letting you add one. It's not
>>>>>>> foolproof, but for a small business where your focus is on
>>>>>>> developing,
>>>>>>> this seems like a great solution.
> >


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[The Hit List Users] Re: problem adding tasks

Deleting all of my smart lists seems to have fixed the problem. Not
ideal, but will try to watch to see what steps lead to this if it
happens again.
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